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The Argent Dragon 02-27-2009 12:26 PM

Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Vote accordingly and please share any comments and/or suggestions in a follow-up post. :wink:

Professur 02-27-2009 12:30 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
For fun, or more serious thinking?

Either way ... you're only keeping the gold until you want to buy something with it.

Blorp 02-27-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
I say it depends on your Gold to 50 cal ratio. hehe

If you won't miss the two or three oz of gold, then sure, why not?

mayhem 02-27-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
The uses of a .50 cal in urban areas is overkill. Heck a 308 would prolly endanger someone like a neighbor (penetrate their home) if you were to miss.

Out in the way open spaces, why not.

Mantokir 02-27-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
If you got all you need, I'd be all for it. Even just to play around with every once in a while.

Canadian-guerilla 02-27-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
if someone is shooting at you with a deer(?) rifle
reply with a few rounds of .50 cal

if there's a bunch of thugs threatening you from afar in a vehicle
put a few rounds into the vehicle, let'em run home

BIG GUN gets BIG RESPECT

if you can afford it, buy it, NOW
and buy as much ammo as you can, regardless of price

imho

The Argent Dragon 02-27-2009 12:58 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1597539)
The uses of a .50 cal in urban areas is overkill......

Perhaps your right, but then again if your target is a 'vehicle' or behind a brick wall then the penetration factor might be more important.

Also, there's the 'Investment' part..........especially under a 'ban'.

:wink:

Fullpower 02-27-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Gold is money.
If you want a fifty, spend whatever it takes to own one.
Better get some spares, and a nice selection of brass, dies, etc.

ruprick 02-27-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
You better be a serious reloader....and even then it is crazy expensive.

Unless you need to shoot out past 800 - 1000 yards.....a 308/30-06 and up will get the job done. Or shooting vehicles, etc...

I have a crap load of fun guns...but never had an interest in 50 cal. There are very few ranges where you can really use them....unless you live way oit in the sticks...and shoot on your farm/ranch.

Like I said....308, 30-06, 300 win mag, 338......tough to beat a nice 30 cal sniper rifle with a bipod a good scope and some experience.

Doge 02-27-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
We are going to need people with some heavy artillery if you know what I mean....

Agfinger 02-27-2009 01:53 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
All fine and well until Holder/Obama changes their status to "DD" or "Destructive Device" which would render them class 3 and would require a federal tax stamp of $200, transfer fees everytime the gun changed hands and full compliance on the owner's part...

Not registering after the grace period would be akin to owning an unregistered machinegun....

Just sayin'....

Professur 02-27-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1597565)
if someone is shooting at you with a deer(?) rifle
reply with a few rounds of .50 cal

if there's a bunch of thugs threatening you from afar in a vehicle
put a few rounds into the vehicle, let'em run home

BIG GUN gets BIG RESPECT

if you can afford it, buy it, NOW
and buy as much ammo as you can, regardless of price

imho


Marlboro: You know, that gun costs about two dollars every time you fire it. That's two bucks a bullet.
Harley Davidson: Well how many'd I hit?
Marlboro: You spent twelve dollars and didn't hit a goddamn thing. I nailed one and it cost about four and a quarter.

The Argent Dragon 02-27-2009 02:50 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1597674)
We are going to need people with some heavy artillery if you know what I mean....

79th Dragon Light Artillery............has a nice ring too it, ehh ?

:emotions16:

Red_Leg 02-27-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1597776)
79th Dragon Light Artillery............has a nice ring too it, ehh ?

:emotions16:

Hello Argent Dragon,

Your thread got me to looking for the .50 cal manual I brought home with me from the service. I carried it with me constantly to make sure I remembered headspace and timing settings. We used them on M109A1's.

Devastating! I'm going to keep looking for the manual. It's here someplace.

Victor 02-27-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1597672)
You better be a serious reloader....and even then it is crazy expensive.

Unless you need to shoot out past 800 - 1000 yards.....a 308/30-06 and up will get the job done. Or shooting vehicles, etc...

I have a crap load of fun guns...but never had an interest in 50 cal. There are very few ranges where you can really use them....unless you live way oit in the sticks...and shoot on your farm/ranch.

Like I said....308, 30-06, 300 win mag, 338......tough to beat a nice 30 cal sniper rifle with a bipod a good scope and some experience.

I agree with Ruprick 100%. Get a quality bolt gun setup in 308 or 300 mag. Use the rest of your leftover cash on spare ammo and/or reloading equipment. Ammo costs and/or reloading costs for the 50 cal will kick you square in the sack.....

Plastic 02-27-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
I can't even begin to imagine what the results would be of nailing someone point blank with a .50 cal..... Oh wait.... Yes I can.... Nothing left but a pair of shoes and some splatter on your lawn.




:s9:

JJ_ 02-27-2009 03:18 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Personally - I think its overkill brother...They make mortars, LAW's RPG's, Javelins and such for takin' out vehicles...

Bill843 02-27-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
A 50BMG is essentially a toy.

Its power isn't necessary at shorter ranges, and anything that would be attacking you from its longer ranges isn't really a threat that a single man with light arms can respond to anyway.

I'm not arguing with your right to buy one if you want it, but this is not the year to be buying guns that have no practical use.

Pistols and pistol-caliber carbines with threaded barrels is what I'd want. Legal to buy in most states, and they have "interesting" DIY possibilities that will occur to one in a darker future.

-end-

Desert Fox 02-27-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Hey, you only live once. Life is short, play hard. Go for it...:biggrin:

erocktxmade 02-27-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
I would do the same exact thing if I wanted a .50 cal rifle. I mean, I bought gold and silver to be able to trade it or cash it in to get something I wanted or needed which for me is a house and/or land way down the road. That being said, I THINK IT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE TO TRADE ONE HEAVY ASS METAL FOR ANOTHER! Think about it, a hundred dollars (2 GAES) for a rifle of that magnitude......to me thats a no brainer.

Twisted Avatar 02-27-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1597672)
You better be a serious reloader....and even then it is crazy expensive.

Unless you need to shoot out past 800 - 1000 yards.....a 308/30-06 and up will get the job done. Or shooting vehicles, etc...

I have a crap load of fun guns...but never had an interest in 50 cal. There are very few ranges where you can really use them....unless you live way oit in the sticks...and shoot on your farm/ranch.

Like I said....308, 30-06, 300 win mag, 338......tough to beat a nice 30 cal sniper rifle with a bipod a good scope and some experience.



I agree with Ru.......

If you want this for a "Bogey Killer" .308 and 30-06 are more than enough to get the job the done so it really would not be pratical.......... actually its more counter productive.(Great risk of collateral damage)

BUT AT THE SAME TIME.

If everything else is pretty much squared up I cant fault you for wanting to have ONE BIG NASTY @$$ TOY.

Either way, I envy the hell out of you right now:36_1_28:

negative1 02-27-2009 04:40 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Do it. You had better remember that unless you picked your ammo up over a year ago or have a good source your entering a whole new price range.

They are addicting but at the same time I highly recommend everyone that can afford a .50 should buy now!

Red_Leg 02-27-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
If I were to invest FRN's or PM's into buying what is probably the original gunner/asst gunner fired "shock and awe" tactical weapon, I would look at the potential for investment gain first. I remember firing Tommy's that belonged to my dad's friends back in the very early sixties(another awesome forgotten handheld weapon), the weapons that were supposed to be incapable of firing auto....those weapons eventually sold for small fortunes. There's still a few out there. I doubt anyone making this kind of investment could not afford the ammo. Even if it is auto capable. Another positive side of the coin in owning a weapon with such capability is....
Not all future warfare is going to be fought urban. There's a whole lot of open countryside in the U.S. right now and that is where alot of it will be fought tactically, IMO.

I would do it if I had the chance, Argent. I'm still looking for that damn manual!:s1:

gangsta99 02-27-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
AD I was just asking myself before I saw this post, "why doesn't AD own a 50 cal rifle yet?"

I say do it, you can always get more gold, you may never be able to get a 50 cal rifle down the road though.


So when this country falls apart are you ready to be the "warlord" of your county? You will sure in the hell have the firepower.

MOD1 02-27-2009 10:33 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
No. Imho, very limited utility. Why give up the gold? The way things are going, a free Ma Duece may become available in the near future. :fan:
Take care,
Mod1

EE_ 02-28-2009 09:56 AM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
If you say you need something, I could debate or argue the point all day.
If you say you want something, case closed! Nothing to say but, enjoy!
Isn't that what life is all about...doing what you want to do?

Gordon Gekko 02-28-2009 10:00 AM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
50-cal?? Sure!

http://conspiracyx0.tripod.com/weapons2/M82D.jpg

Twisted Avatar 02-28-2009 10:13 AM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1599192)
If you say you need something, I could debate or argue the point all day.
If you say you want something, case closed! Nothing to say but, enjoy!

Isn't that what life is all about...doing what you want to do?

That about sums it up.

Go for it!! :ok:


T

Bx3 02-28-2009 10:59 AM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
If you have the three gun category already covered with plenty of spare parts and ammo, night vision should be at the top of your priority list. YOU WILL NOT SURVIVE an engagement against an opponent who has NV capabilities if you do not. The only effective counter to NV is to have it yourself, then you have a chance to prevail. Trust me on this!

platinumdude 02-28-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
A 50 cal is a big gun to be lugging around, I doubt your fantasy scenarios will ever come to pass. If you want to stop a 50, just set create a sandbag barrier with more than 16 inches thick of sand. Some military vehicles set them up in vehicle for protection.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-hardening.htm


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Irons 02-28-2009 06:10 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MOD1 (Post 1598716)
No. Imho, very limited utility. Why give up the gold? The way things are going, a free Ma Duece may become available in the near future. :fan:
Take care,
Mod1

I was thinking the same thing, heavy weapons will come "Red Dawn" style..

The Argent Dragon 02-28-2009 06:54 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1599288)
If you have the three gun category already covered with plenty of spare parts and ammo, night vision should be at the top of your priority list.......

Got it ~ I'll look to get an NV scope to accompany my AR-50 or BA50 rifle.

:bear_thumb: .......as for the Gold, I can wait a few weeks and see if we can reach another high before converting few rounds to FIAT.

ALL of this came about with my recent ammo purchase of 10 API rounds of 50-cal and those f*%kers are HUGE ! ........awww and they're purty too. :bull-smile:

Blorp 02-28-2009 07:10 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1599954)
ALL of this came about with my recent ammo purchase of 10 API rounds of 50-cal and those f*%kers are HUGE ! ........awww and they're purty too. :bull-smile:


Lol

One of the guys at the local shop said, 'Have you ever bought a gun because you had ammo in that caliber?'

You might be a redneck!

lol

It was funny because about 3 guys looked up when he asked it. Then looked guilty. lol

Me included.

mike77777 03-01-2009 04:00 AM

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don't fool around, go 20 mike mike

Twisted Avatar 03-01-2009 07:19 AM

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WHY DO I FEEL SO WICKED ALL OF A SUDDEN????

negative1 03-01-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1600671)
don't fool around, go 20 mike mike

You just reminded me of one of the funnest videos on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/v/n4Dea5iae4A&hl=en&fs=1

She is just so damn cute!

FireMattMillen 03-02-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Go for it!

You can hit a target before the sucker even hears the sound. :banana:

JJ_ 03-02-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1235898011

wow - that dood's a midget








:sarcasm:

mike77777 03-02-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
the 20mm rifle he built is approx 80" oal.:36_1_25:

JJ_ 03-02-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1603090)
the 20mm rifle he built is approx 80" oal.:36_1_25:

man that is friggin big..

That gun looks like it was milled from a 6 by 8

mike77777 03-02-2009 03:42 PM

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anzio ironworks, wild stuff.

negative1 03-02-2009 07:06 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1599954)
Got it ~ I'll look to get an NV scope to accompany my AR-50 or BA50 rifle.

:bull-smile:

A.D.
Now you made me think about a new home for my NV. I had it on a Bushmaster .308 but I traded that rifle off and hoped to do the same with the NV at the next show.

Anyway you gave me an idea...



http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/BMG_Night.JPG

I may need a lower rail but it's not bad. With the quick take down knobs it stows easy. I have until March 21 to play with the idea.


:s1:

GoldWampum 03-02-2009 07:11 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Saw a couple of those babies at a gun show on Saturday. They are awesome... truly awesome. I mean, I can't afford to feed one, but wouldn't mind someone close having one. The community Howitzer... :4_1_72:

negative1 03-03-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1603445)
Saw a couple of those babies at a gun show on Saturday.

What were they running at the show?

I took the NV off. I decided to go back to a standard rifle scope.

:s1:

sky 03-03-2009 06:09 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Over kill for urban areas, plus if you were to use that on military aircraft say goodbye to yourself, as you will be surely killed with exploding projectiles.

GoldWampum 03-03-2009 06:31 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 1605420)
What were they running at the show?

I took the NV off. I decided to go back to a standard rifle scope.

:s1:

Don't quote me cause I looked at a lot of stuff, but I think I remember one of them at least priced at around 2700.

negative1 03-03-2009 09:40 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sky (Post 1605529)
Over kill for urban areas, plus if you were to use that on military aircraft say goodbye to yourself, as you will be surely killed with exploding projectiles.


Actually I was going to shoot paper targets with it. That should have the tree huggers up in arms. To each his own I guess.

:biggrin:

negative1 03-03-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1605574)
Don't quote me cause I looked at a lot of stuff, but I think I remember one of them at least priced at around 2700.


Last show up here in Jan they were still around $2400.

GoldWampum 03-03-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 1605873)
Actually I was going to shoot paper targets with it. That should have the tree huggers up in arms.

:biggrin:

Can't believe all the negativity around here concerning the 50. I see nothing at all wrong with someone having one even for the fun of it, and if TS does HTF, I bet there is the occasional time when one is handy. It's not like people are talking about getting rid of their smaller arms and carrying that baby out into a street skirmish.

negative1 03-04-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1605878)
Can't believe all the negativity around here concerning the 50.

People are so easily brainwashed by the gov. and the media.

Look at Waco the gov said that there were .50s there so they needed to use military armor for protection. After killing all that they could the gov went through the ashes and listed every weapon found. Take a guess what wasn't on that list?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../treasury.html

You guessed it. There were zero .50s at Waco.

However to this day they are still using Waco as a reason to ban .50s.

So if you have a populace that will just soak up all that they hear without actually looking at facts you can control them and make them believe anything.

When I hear the people say that the .50 is only used for evil I just see someone that hasn't done any real research.

:s1:

The Argent Dragon 03-04-2009 08:29 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1603445)
They are awesome... truly awesome. I mean, I can't afford to feed one, but wouldn't mind someone close having one. The community Howitzer... :4_1_72:

Thanks, I think it's healthy for anyone gunlover with the means to at least consider the .50-cal. Ok, it's overkill and ok, the ammo is pricey. BUT

Check this out,

Try finding API and APIT ammo to feed your little FAL or Saiga or CETME.......you soon find out that those rounds are pricey TOO if and that's a big IF you find any - chances are you won't.

I just bought 50-cal API ammo for $5 a pop and that's a small batch........I know where to buy it just under $3 per round for over a 100-count.

IF you're not SERIOUS and you don't like 50-cals for whatever reason then that's ok.........I LUV BIG GUNS - PERIOD.

Thanks for the positive posts - keep 'em coming. I want to explore all the pros and cons...........and so far the the only con is - I don't need one. :tongue_ma:

Agamemnon 03-05-2009 07:54 PM

Re: Sell off some GOLD to buy a 50-cal ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1607467)
I LUV BIG GUNS - PERIOD.


Then you're gonna luv the ZF-1




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